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Wednesday, January 19, 2005

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christopher grove

Rosa,
quite simply a wonderful post.
You're right, whatever is given, be it a simple nice welcome, or a gift (price reduction, special offer, etc.)is always appreciated.
So why isn't it done more often? Probably because managers concentrate on efficiency instead of smiles, welcomes, etc. I remember when I worked in a call centre, we were told that the customer hears the smile and all of that, but only during the training period (1 week at the start). Compared to the number of times that the call length and efficiency were underlined, that obviously wasn't underlined enough as a priority...

Rosa

Aloha Christopher, and mahalo for your comment.

I think you've answered the question to why this isn't done more often - it isn't "underlined as a priority" and woven into the company culture.

What is a company's culture? A collection of systems that people must buy into if they are to succeed there - customer and employee alike.

Managers have much to deal with in terms of company systems, and we've all heard the systems versus people arguments in all sorts of incantations dozens of times. Ho'okipa should be thought of as a system of hospitality that comes naturally to people - we are going with human nature, not against it - when the overall business culture not only encourages it to flourish, but all other systems have habitually and systematically been designed around it.

And managers must be held accountable for ho'okipa just as they are for other metrics. The great news is that this is a metric that feels good and right.

Rich...!

Hi Rosa, nice in theory, but I remain sceptical/cynical, it comes down to what drives people. As mentioned in this post (http://www.helloworldblog.com/2005/01/can_you_train_p.html) I believe that there is something inherent in people that drives them to want to give good service, and I believe that it stems from simply taking pride in what you do. As such, I feel that there is some people that just can't be trained to give good service; polite, rule driven "plastic" service perhaps, but not good old from-the-heart-because-I-want-too good service...!

Bren

Rich, you've got a point. I think some folks are unreachable too. Seems like you might have too narrow a view, though: either have the "gene" or don't have the "gene". If they have it, you can train them. If they don't you can't. I don't buy it. I think the "gene" must be viewed within a context.

For instance, in the retail context, I don't have the gene. I hate it there and I don't want to talk to people. On the other hand, in higher education, I seem to do pretty well.

So, maybe there is a "gene" but it's not universal--it's contextual. And a manager won't know whether a person has it without trying what Rosa's describing. Without trying, we could be losing some potential winners...

K. Todd Storch

Rosa,

You're writing is absolutely wonderful. I feel like I'm back in Hawaii, comforted by a gentle breeze and no worries as I try to pronounce the words in my head!

I want to add Ho‘okipa to my vocabulary. How do you pronounce it?!

Thank you for this great post!

Todd

Rosa

Aloha Rich, Bren, and Todd, mahalo for keeping the thoughts going while I was offline today.

Rich I agree with you: it does come down to what drives people, and personally, I do not believe you can teach someone to be Mea Ho‘okipa. Either they are or they aren’t. You can’t fake a genuine sincerity for giving that you simply don’t have in you. Fake it and your customer knows it, and you feel like the fake you are - not good for either of you.

However, I also believe that many people ARE born Mea Ho‘okipa. In any business, recruitment, interview and selection will be the most critical things you do, so that the right person is in the right job. And if you are hiring a service provider, you better be hiring the person who is innately Mea Ho‘okipa.

Bren’s comment is perceptive about there being contextual considerations as well, however you’ve got to start with innate talent. I’m sold on the Gallup theory (hire for talent, train skills and grow knowledge) for I’ve seen it play out time and time again.

Plain and simple, the person who is Mea Ho‘okipa is someone who genuinely loves serving others. Those of us who aren’t Mea Ho‘okipa ourselves have a hard time understanding it, but Mea Ho‘okipa are those who do not equate serving others with being a servant - they equate it with being a host. And not just a polite and cordial host, a knock-their-socks-off host.

Now Mea Ho‘okipa can benefit from training just as we all can improve, by building on our natural talents whatever they may be. I won’t go into it here, but in Managing with Aloha, I do talk about what skills and knowledge the manager trains his Mea Ho‘okipa in: perhaps we can visit it more so in some of my future Talking Story posts.

I love Bren’s thinking, that “without trying, we could be losing some potential winners” however consider this as well:
Far too often we will hire right, but then that person who may indeed be true Mea Ho‘okipa becomes disenchanted - or worse, doubts their own naturally good inclinations, because the company culture does not support, encourage, and reward their efforts (and I'm NOT talking about incentive programs). The other unfortunate thing that happens, is that everything is done for the almighty customer, however the same degree of ho‘okipa is not extended to everyone else, and employees start to think, “hey, why aren’t I good enough too?”

When I encourage you to weave ho‘okipa into the company culture, it’s got to be for everyone, and it’s got to be inculcated into every single company system. It’s got to be prevalent to the point of being self-sustaining. Frankly, it's got to be obsessive, and nothing less can be tolerated.

Todd, mahalo for your kindness, and for being Mea Ho‘okipa for me here today. You are doing a wonderful thing, getting we who can make a difference to take the responsibility for doing so.

(It’s pronounced: may a hoe o key pa.)

Matt

Rosa,
What a wonderful post. Your thoughts and ideas on customer service are refreshing and inspirational. Thanks for sharing.

Matt

Rosa

Aloha Matt, and mahalo for leaving a comment here for me.

I like the post you just did at your blog about coaching girls soccer:
http://mattsunshine.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/01/coaching_girls_.html

Seems to me there are some valuable applications to customer service in your coaching lessons too!
Aloha kaua, ---Rosa

Rosemary

Mahalo Rosa for a wonderful post. At the place where I work, the Customer Service Manager and I believe and try to practice Ho‘okipa everyday with the customers as well as the employees. We spend most of our waking time there- it should feel like home. We also want the customers to feel the warmth, the minute they walk through the door. We have music playing and decorate the branch for the holidays. From time to time- we will have a customer appreciation day with cookies and punch. Several years ago we had a cookout for them and some of them still talk about it to this day. I love to hear laughter during the day- it's music to my ears. I never thought of it as hospitality- but that is the perfect word. If every business could put into practice Ho‘okipa- we as customers would be in heaven. Now I have to practice saying the word- so I can pass it along to the staff.

Dave

Rosa,

Although I am only on chapter four (good words are to be sipped you know) I feel like your book is like a carefully crafted bridge. On one side is age old Hawaiian values and on the other is the world of business. As I walk back and forth I can actually feel the possibility of a greater reverance for values in the workplace through your words.

How could anyone not feel this way after they have read this enlightenment on Ho'okipa??

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